Comments on: A Tale of Two Car Design Philosophies https://hackaday.com/2025/10/16/a-tale-of-two-car-design-philosophies/ Fresh hacks every day Tue, 21 Oct 2025 07:34:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: ecloud https://hackaday.com/2025/10/16/a-tale-of-two-car-design-philosophies/#comment-8197172 Tue, 21 Oct 2025 07:34:19 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=810457#comment-8197172 Electric is where it’s at now. They could be so simple if some company was willing to build them that way, and the result would easily be price-competitive too. I hope some Chinese upstart might see the need for it, for a few years: I doubt that any existing western companies will be willing to go backwards from their current rent-seeking/enshittification. It’s something only a startup can realistically do.

I want to see a small rustproof electric pickup or SUV. Maybe like a mini cybertruck, or maybe a bit more conventional like an old Toyota or Datsun but stainless steel, or maybe like the VW bus. Obviously in this category it’s more acceptable to be utilitarian and leave out any semblance of luxury features or excessively-fancy electronics. Anybody who does this right could have a #1 hit for a few years, in most countries.

But I suspect some regulations are in the way. They were put in place by automotive lobbyists, after all.

I hope my i3 will eventually be seen as accidentally good and repairable (despite coming from a company that mostly went bad). Time will tell. It seems to me the basic design is relatively reasonable, but it might turn out to have an achilles heel.

American hackers can still build or at least mod their own cars, moreso in some states than others. Europeans, not so much, as far as I can tell.

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By: Kelly https://hackaday.com/2025/10/16/a-tale-of-two-car-design-philosophies/#comment-8196863 Mon, 20 Oct 2025 19:17:32 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=810457#comment-8196863 Look at the barrage of serious recalls for modern cars AND over many models and years: piston rings (Toyota) , conn rod bearings (Honda), valves breaking (Ford) etc.
It’s like an auto-destruct sequence getting activated. Manufacturing and Engineering and accountability has become quite poor. These repairs are many $1,000’s of dollars.

Although, I am told dealerships make little money on the sale of a car. It’s the maintenance and repairs that they really make money on. So replace that cabin air filter! Car is now off warranty? The repair will be $5,000 maybe buy a new car…

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By: Sammie Gee https://hackaday.com/2025/10/16/a-tale-of-two-car-design-philosophies/#comment-8196694 Mon, 20 Oct 2025 12:39:47 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=810457#comment-8196694 In the early 1980s Buick Century it was rebadged as “simple family sedan that could compete with Toyota” (back then there eixsted other Buicks that were actually not that bad, Buick Roadmaster, one of the last recycled/remaining Land Yachts).

Obviously, Century couldn’t compete with Toyota, even brand new Century was few years behind anything Toyota or Mazda offered/sold already, but GM took all the 1981 bailout moneys nonetheless, and went on to focus on something else. Century was a good, solid car, (more-or-less) easy to fix and maintain, just it wasn’t as flashy as Riviera, and sure offered less luxuries than Park Avenue, but it was good car overall.

(though, I’d have to point out the meager backseat space, which came as a compromise; also rather unimpressive engine that worked okay for most purposes, but struggled with, say, mountain driving – New Hampshire driving proved to be a bit of a challenge, and overall handling had its quirks).

But it was good low-cost sedan. I also owned Pontiac Bonneville, and it was far better deal, built like a tank, good well-made car that made it through 1990s “corporate restructuring” mostly unscathed, profit-making brand that was destroyed in the 2000s, mostly due inept management.

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By: Sammie Gee https://hackaday.com/2025/10/16/a-tale-of-two-car-design-philosophies/#comment-8196690 Mon, 20 Oct 2025 12:25:03 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=810457#comment-8196690 Since you’ve mentioned Buick, Buick Century was the last affordable and fixable car (I owned one for long while and it simply refused to die). It has been made for so long, all the major details were worked out.

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By: Ray https://hackaday.com/2025/10/16/a-tale-of-two-car-design-philosophies/#comment-8196389 Sun, 19 Oct 2025 22:59:10 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=810457#comment-8196389 In reply to Ray.

There’s a degree of irony in that I’ve 20-ish hours later shattered the screen of my Apple silicone case-encased iPhone for the first time in ten years.

Oh, well. Unlike my VAG cars, it works in spite of the damage and, the repair, while manufacturer / partner-tethered, will cost less a percentage of the purchase price as compare to all but the most trivial software-locked auto repairs.

As we inevitably prepare for Apple-bashing a post or two downstream, remind me of the automotive Android equivalent… or is there even such a thing now that Google is going all-in on it’s “signed by Play Store or it won’t run” strategy?

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By: Dude https://hackaday.com/2025/10/16/a-tale-of-two-car-design-philosophies/#comment-8196232 Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:33:41 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=810457#comment-8196232 In reply to ialonepossessthetruth.

Actually, the conscious experience of you is only 2-3 minutes old. Everything beyond that fades and is either forgotten, or archived away as a distorted memory with almost all of the details lost.

You cannot walk to the end of your street and back. The you that returns is not the same one that left. Can you tell me, what were your thoughts 30 seconds ago? They’re no longer there.

Every momentary instance of you exists simultaneously across a multitude of dimensional planes.

Of which there is no evidence, and never can be, because such “other dimensions” would be inaccessible. Whether such things exist or not makes no observable difference to the world we live in, which means they might as well not exist.

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By: IIVQ https://hackaday.com/2025/10/16/a-tale-of-two-car-design-philosophies/#comment-8195924 Sun, 19 Oct 2025 09:10:37 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=810457#comment-8195924 In reply to ialonepossessthetruth.

That took a long time for me to understand, but in Europe the flip-up-rear window was never popular, so I imagined a rear window in a rear hatch.

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